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Destroying a Karate Stance

Newsletter 1023

The Right Way to Do a Karate Stance!

Good morning!
I was out driving
and came to a stork crossing.
So I had to wait.

While I was waiting I got out
and duplicated the storks motion.
Tried to figure out how
I could make a martial art out of it.
Nah. I’m just kidding.
Already been done.
I believe in physics more than animal motions.
Which brings us to today’s enlightenment.
Have you ever heard of
shiko dachi

It’s sort of like Kiba dachi,
a horse stance,
but the feet are turned out 45 degrees.
Here’s a graphic I took from The MartialWay.com.au

this stance is famous,
used in Goju a lot,
people swear by it,
tout it’s virtues,
it points up how F’ed up karate can get.

Look, the physics of the matter are simple.
The purposes of the stance are two fold.
To grip the ground,
or to launch from the ground.

Examine the feet,
the arches of the feet are necessary for gripping.
If you turn the feet out,
as in shiko dachi,
it destroys the ability of the foot
to grip the ground.

it splits the intention.
Your knees are pointed in two directions,
but karate,
or any good martial art,
is based on the idea that the body must go
in one direction.
One direction and one intention.

look at the drawing on the right.
The lower back is bent.
The feet are pointing out,
which necessitates the hips moving in a certain direction,
which causes the back to bow.

But the back is supposed to be straight in karate.
It transmits energy better when it is straight.

So the point is this,
doing Shiko dachi destroys your balance,
ruptures your body mechanics,
and can even hurt the arches of your feet.
Yet people swear by it.

when you examine various writings,
looking for a truth behind Shiko Dachi,
you come up with gobbledegook.
One fellow made a remark that
shiko dachi softens the back.
And he said it like that is good.
And he said it like it makes sense.
When it makes no sense at all.
What the hell is ‘softening the back?’

Another fellow claimed Shiko Dachi is a powerful stance,
then he showed all sorts of applications.
But his applications weren’t based so much
on the power of the stance,
but on edging his body inward to upset balance.
Yes, the stance appeared to work,
but it was really the ‘body bump’ that worked.
And every application he did,
it looked awkward,
and would have looked better,
and worked better,
if he had used a classic horse stance.

The long and the short of this is this…
Shiko dachi is not a good karate stance,
and shouldn’t even be included with karate stances,
except to show how a stance shouldn’t be done.

as I said in the beginning,
experts swear by it,
legends taught it (Yamaguchi, among others)
and it is obvious that they were doing something cool,
something maybe even based in other practices
than the martial arts,
and they had

don’t believe me.
Try it for yourself.
Learn the physics of the body,
apply shiko dachi,
and see if you come to the same conclusion as I did.
Poke around TheMartialWay website,
they have a lot of good stuff,
it’s not all shiko dachi,
but you will find a lot of stuff written on shiko dachi.

just a friendly disclaimer,
I post this analysis not to bad mouth anybody,
but to educate.
Nowhere do I get personal,
everywhere I talk about the structure of the body,
the intention of the spirit inside and outside of the body,
and so on.

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I’m thinking about that stork I showed you earlier.
Maybe I don’t believe in mysticism,
but I sure believe in dinnertime.
Can you dig it?
Kentucky Fried…Storks!

Have a SUPER work out!

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Horse Stance Meditation Karate to Get Out of the body

Good Lard is it a beeootifull day for a horse stance!

Good day to work out, limber up the muskles, knock the fat off yer frame…a karate horse stance. Get healthy. Ya know? Are ya ready to talk?

One of the karate drills I hated the most, but got the most out of, was the simple horse stance. We would spread the legs, get the thighs down to where they were almost parallel to the floor, and put up one high block, and extend the other hand to the side in a chicken beak, and look at our finger tips. We called this karate horse stance position Kima Chasie. Horse Meditation.

karate horse stance

Focus awareness,, get out of the pain…get out of the body.

And we meditated on the pain it would cause us.

Now, forget the pain of the karate horse stance, forget the stronger legs, forget everything but the real purpose of it. Get out of your body.

After a couple of years of dabbling with the karate horse stance Meditation I decided to do it right. I decided that pain wouldn’t cause death (in this instance) and that I should just do the exercise until I got what it was all about.

So, I hit the stance, looked at my fingers, and concentrated on breathing. Time passed. Minutes seemed like hours. My mind began to still, the world slowed down. Seconds seemed like hours.

And, suddenly it all stopped hurting. No pain at all. The whole universe was one peaceful concept that i could live with forever.

how long did it take me to get there?

Five minutes.

That’s all.

Zingo bingo, instant enlightenment.

Now came the problem. When I tried to move, I couldn’t. My whole body had locked up. Man, I was freaked. Tried to wiggle backwards, couldn’t move, couldn’t even rock. Tried forwards, ah, there we go, I could fall for…oh shit…ah! Landed on my face.

So, enlightenment is possible through the old training methods, but sometimes it can be weird, freaky, and even as significant as a punch on the nose.

Hey, any of youse guys feel like coming over to see me, I live on good old Monster Martial Arts. Brings your friends, the doors are open, leave your old life outside.

See ya.


This has been a page about karate horse stance meditation, and here is a great page about breaking heads with your board…uh, breaking boards with your head!

Horse Stance Training for POWERFUL Legs!

More Martial Arts Power Through Horse Stance Training

Horse Stance training creates incredible martial arts power. No matter if you call it Kiba Dachi in the Japanese martial arts, or Mabu in the Chinese martial arts, the stance fills the student with real power.

First, with horse stance training the stance sinks the weight to the ground, and the legs receive a muscular work out right from the start.

horse stance training

Sink low and breath in each stance!


Second, as one breathes deeper and deeper, and energizes the tan tien (the energy generator for the body), they start to manufacture carloads of real and usable chi power.

The student must, of course, make sure he is doing the horse stance training correctly. Proper horse stance equals lots of power. Improper horse stance position means little power.

And we all want power, so we all must do out horse stance training in the proper manner.

First, don’t turn the feet out, that unbalances the body, and an unbalanced body doesn’t create as much chi energy as a balanced body. If you practice Gojy ryu in particular, turn those feet straight, or nearly so. Balance the body, and feel more energy grow.

Second, don’t push the knees too far out. A little out is okay, but big bow legs in the Horse stance exercise is going to stress the knees, and stressed knees, knees in which the energy goes to the knees and not to the ground, are not going to allow the tan tien to work as hard.

The horse stance looks cool with the legs bowed out, but a squat is better, with the legs only slightly out.

This should actually be a balance between how deep one goes, and how prepared one is to launch oneself through space.

Third, get low. A low horse stance benefits the energy body in amazing ways. It makes the body work, and that makes the body create energy, and that energy can be used in training to make one healthy and quick like a tiger, or powerful enough to make any martial art technique work.

And when the newbie comes to you and asks why you are so good, just look him in the eye and say, “You should be asking how to do a horse stance.

Here is some great data on making Karate Powerful. You can also look into some great Classical Karate at Monster Martial Arts.